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Post by Dragon on Apr 28, 2009 20:27:48 GMT -4
There are some sound files that supposedly change your brainwave frequency so that you can feel the effect of a certain drug, emotion, or state of consciousness. There are also some that you can use for lucid dreams and Out-of-body experiences. What are your thoughts on this? i-doser.com has a lot of examples. They are kind of pricey if you get them from the site but there are ways to get them for free. -cough- Limewire or Frostwire -cough-.
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Post by LinKuei on Apr 29, 2009 0:00:23 GMT -4
avoid i-doser, it's a bunch of hype, and doesn't work. The best program out there is either Brainwave Generator (the website has been hacked, but you can find the freeware out there online), the other one is neuroprogrammer2. NP2 is expensive, BWG is cheaper. Both have lots of good presets.
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Post by thepositivemoxie on Apr 29, 2009 0:24:51 GMT -4
I use this stuff a lot. Real cool. A lot of people say not to use it as a crutch. I think if you go into thinking this is easier and its the only way you can get into this state, that it will make it harder for you to believe otherwise. Though I am a firm believer in using this stuff. Neuroprogrammer 2 is the one I use most frequently. Good stuff, and a whole set of resources on there website. Also I have used Adobe Audition to generate my own tones and design my own. Here is a list of every brain frequency I have ever seen figured out. From drugs, to spiritual states of mind, to certain body parts. lunarsight.com/freq.htm
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Post by Dragon on May 2, 2009 16:18:59 GMT -4
I downloaded brainwave generator and I'll try it later today. ;D
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Post by warrior381 on May 2, 2009 17:22:40 GMT -4
what about this one...http://www.hemi-sync.com/shopexd.asp?id=45
?? what do you think of this one.. write back..
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Post by serapis on May 5, 2009 15:03:02 GMT -4
Hi warrior 381
As I mentioned in other postings I have OBEs since I am a child, but only since a few months I can repeat them by will;
I tried out many things, lots of books and also hemi sync and david pal mind machine ...
mind machine totally relaxed me and I had some lucid dreams, but I got bad bad bad headache from that after a while .... one day I really paniced because I was thinking my heart wont beat any more and my brain felt like "walking in another direction then I want" ... and many hours after using david pal .... really scary so I sold it ...
hemi sync: I have all CDs at home, its really expensive: (also monroes out of body CDs with only sound)
IN my case I had good experiences in the way I was able to relax and I had some kind of "I can project my mind all over the planet" experience; But NO real OBE through the CDs!!
Through a lot of practise and because of many hints of sapphire one day I managed to have a few OBEs ..... now I already had 2 stunning astral experiences where I was some kind of allmighty as well as dozend of APs and hundrets of lucid dreams ...
maybe its better to try out simple tchniques or meditation than CDs, I am glad I tried out everything so I know what it is about, but with my knowledge of today I would have saved all the money and go on holiday with it ....
hope this helps,
cheers
serapis
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Post by Astral Knight on May 5, 2009 17:03:44 GMT -4
I am the same with Serapis, other stuffs are useless.
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Post by serapis on May 6, 2009 5:28:36 GMT -4
yes hehe ... and easy techniques work better than CDs ... at least I tried out all these things, they are sometimes dangerous and dont work as well as easy visualisations ....
when I had these headache, I really felt like being very sick, one night I felt so dizzy that I began to think oh my god this is serious ....
but when I stopped with mind machine also no problems any more ...
esp mindmachines I ll never tough again!!!!!!
hemi sync worked but I dont need it any more ...
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Post by warrior381 on May 6, 2009 12:50:20 GMT -4
yes hehe ... and easy techniques work better than CDs ... at least I tried out all these things, they are sometimes dangerous and dont work as well as easy visualisations .... when I had these headache, I really felt like being very sick, one night I felt so dizzy that I began to think oh my god this is serious .... but when I stopped with mind machine also no problems any more ... esp mindmachines I ll never tough again!!!!!! hemi sync worked but I dont need it any more ... are you saying that Hemi sync CD work?? also I like to know i am doing the same thing like research all the information about the light and sound machine,book,CD I try many way so maybe the CD with the Hemi sync work so write back... I also wonder if the Hyper dimensional resonator work or not...??
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Post by Sapphire on May 6, 2009 19:45:45 GMT -4
Whatever you guys do, just don't take drugs, the more natural the possible.
I personally do not take any drug, and able to project everyday.
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Post by warrior381 on May 6, 2009 22:03:31 GMT -4
Whatever you guys do, just don't take drugs, the more natural the possible. I personally do not take any drug, and able to project everyday. well I do have to take drug for my mind because I have a disorder problem... that i dream pretty good but I am trying to do Astral Projection and that I use all the mind drug in the moring but night time i only take two pill that all i take so anyway that all i can do...so I am trying to Astral projection but I have use the saltcube.com informtion about how to induce out of body experince..so write back anyone..
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Post by serapis on May 7, 2009 4:46:11 GMT -4
hello,
Well what they did:
through the CDs woth only the binaural sound for AP (monroe institute) I managed to totally relax; It was quite scary to watch my breath stopping, hear myself snoring or similar things ...
Also I had some kind of mental projections through these CDs and I reached focus 10 easily as well as focus 12 and 15/ 21 ....
I didnt manage to have an OBE through the CDs because I heared the voice and this reminded me that I am IN the body hehe .....
so I cant leave the body and at the same time liten to a voice being IN the body..... in my case at least this doesnt work .....
so the CDs are not bad .....just no AP through them on my side ...... maybe they prepare one to be able to relax and reach the state of ..... mind awake, body asleep; .....
this seems to be very important even though I have to say I can get APs now without even thinking I should reach this state, it simply happens, sometimes without doing anything; if I want to do it by will I have to focus a few days .... wanting to have them and then it happens ..... next night or a few days later ....
I dont focus so much on APs at the moment as I have to establish a new yoga course and theres a lot to do with my business ....
also they happen by itself anyway so for me its ok to remember 3-5 times a month for the moment ....
another thing: these CDs are quite expensive!
in my opinion .... just try sapphires methods and safe the money for your next holiday ... (I dont say try to find cheap copies hehe ... ;-) ) dont use MP3 as MP3 changes the frequencies .... only use original CDs or copies of these original CDs ....
dont try out CDs where u dont know if somebody changed something, its your mind u are playin with ...!!
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Post by serapis on May 7, 2009 4:47:40 GMT -4
PS: be very carefull with mind machines, I sold mine as I got terrible headache through them! Also u wont reach APS, jusr relaxation or hypagognic pics, no out of body experience!!
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Post by Dragon on May 7, 2009 17:49:13 GMT -4
I know that I can reach full meditative state on my own. I'm just curious to see if and how well they work. ;D
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Post by kentucker4 on May 7, 2009 18:48:07 GMT -4
hello, Well what they did: through the CDs woth only the binaural sound for AP (monroe institute) I managed to totally relax; It was quite scary to watch my breath stopping, hear myself snoring or similar things ... Also I had some kind of mental projections through these CDs and I reached focus 10 easily as well as focus 12 and 15/ 21 .... I didnt manage to have an OBE through the CDs because I heared the voice and this reminded me that I am IN the body hehe ..... so I cant leave the body and at the same time liten to a voice being IN the body..... in my case at least this doesnt work ..... so the CDs are not bad .....just no AP through them on my side ...... maybe they prepare one to be able to relax and reach the state of ..... mind awake, body asleep; ..... this seems to be very important even though I have to say I can get APs now without even thinking I should reach this state, it simply happens, sometimes without doing anything; if I want to do it by will I have to focus a few days .... wanting to have them and then it happens ..... next night or a few days later .... I dont focus so much on APs at the moment as I have to establish a new yoga course and theres a lot to do with my business .... also they happen by itself anyway so for me its ok to remember 3-5 times a month for the moment .... another thing: these CDs are quite expensive! in my opinion .... just try sapphires methods and safe the money for your next holiday ... (I dont say try to find cheap copies hehe ... ;-) ) dont use MP3 as MP3 changes the frequencies .... only use original CDs or copies of these original CDs .... dont try out CDs where u dont know if somebody changed something, its your mind u are playin with ...!! Binarul beats work great for meditation. It's all about focusing on a sinlge thought or nothing. They helped me go into deep states without just focusing on the sound.
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