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Post by serapis on Dec 20, 2008 20:53:35 GMT -4
yep hehe it's 2 am here ;-)
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 20, 2008 20:54:17 GMT -4
felt a change like some energy was here, at least I was thinking can only be you ... I can feel some energy from you too. Like electricity.
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 20, 2008 20:57:05 GMT -4
Your electricity is kind of strong, I am getting some minor headache. We seldom on the forum the same hour. Are you releasing energy over? or you are thinking too hard.
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 20, 2008 20:58:53 GMT -4
You know what, Kentucker4 is on the forum also, you two energy together, the electric is getting me.
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 20, 2008 21:04:39 GMT -4
I have to run errands, be back tomorrow. ;D
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Post by serapis on Dec 21, 2008 5:17:48 GMT -4
Hello,
Yes after writing via iphone which was in sleeping room - I was thinking - so maybe I did some kind of remote viewing in your direction;
Also since I am a child I noticed that I can influence people, like making them turning around, walking in my direction e.g. ....so faszinating what U wrote, could be explanation of these abilities;
Also I posted how I feel on this planet, fits exactly into your description;
Yesterday I was asking some questions about myself to inner voice, suddenly got a warm strong feeling in heart chakra, was really strong, with the information about love energy, that it is a real energy, not what humans think it is .....
Happens quite often, for example if there´s troubole coming or someone I havent seen long time is thinking of me - I can feel it, safes me a lot of problems very often;
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Post by serapis on Dec 21, 2008 5:24:16 GMT -4
PS statement about ur presence: normally I am not in the internet during the night, just wanted to state unusual perception;
Felt "different", I simply knew somebodie´s here; I didnt see anything, no perception of form;
These things are strong developed within me, just that my "rational childhood" (teachers, parents) till today is keeping me from realising who I am and doing things I would be able to do;
More and more I discouver that there are really no limitations ....
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Post by serapis on Dec 21, 2008 5:33:16 GMT -4
examle for influencing people;
When I was about 16 I bought the book "black magic" from cavendish ...
I built an elemental, had form of a black puma with green eyes, very big size .... to protect me;
During a journey with school some kids where picking on me and annoyed me; so I was really sad this days;
During night one ran out of the tent telling .... there´s a big dog in the tent ..... the other one screamed because he was dreaming of green eyes following him ......
One day, about 3 months after that, I argued with my mother, finally going away and thinking ..... AAAAAAA I am angry at you .....
suddenly she fainted and lay down on the floor without being conscious ...
I took my magical stick wich was the "home" for my elemental and broke it .... thinking ... to destroy the elemental .... and since then I never did it again ....
Also when we had a fight with a neighbour, member of austrian secret service who brought many innocent people in front of court and shouted at all is neighbours ..... (I was about 20) I took a mirror and thought ..... ll your negative thoughts go back to you and your family ...
soon after that he lost job (2 times) and from boss of secret service he turned into a sick old frustrated man without power ...
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Post by kentucker4 on Dec 21, 2008 10:07:04 GMT -4
Hi, Ok, I dont drink alkohol, dont smoke, eat rather healthy and do yoga and breathing exercises 2-4 times a week; Last night I followed ur hint in the private message and the hint regarding courage - again I was in this condition where - when I cosed eyes I felt like floating or moving, sometimes like moving backwards but I couldnt get away from body; Its like I am sticking on the body, like somebody used glue to stick my consiousness to the body hehe ..... serapis That is a big process, you are ready already. Just you do not know how to do it. I will give you another hint in PM, this time ... you will leave your human body. Very good sign. Post anything after you practice the second hint, I am giving you. I can only AP through dreams mostly.
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Post by serapis on Dec 21, 2008 16:11:17 GMT -4
Hi sapphire and kentucker4,
another thing, a bit blabla about mystics and pseudo mystics:
influencing people:
theres a secret technique only known among monks:
Assumption; I guess you wont google it as its description is an absolute secret;
This is a technique which uses "like attracts like" .... make ur own vibration as high as possible and attract what U desire .... first aim is reach own inner god / master with this technique;
Assumption makes U reach god consciousness, found this technique also in rosicrucian teachings but: unfortunately in the new monographs of rosicrucians: the exercise is good, but not with neccessary additional comments;
because once U reach aim of assumption U can change everybodies thoughts by simply turning into the vibrations of that person";
Means if U are able to change ur vibration to the one of human or animal (described in franz bardons "initiation into true hermetics" U can do everything as another person, it will be his body and your carma; But even franz bardon doesnt mention assumption as not everybody has right to do that;
If any rosicrucian reads above these lines, here´s the key hint: assumtion means reach unio mystica; unite with ur inner god; (BE GOD); this is the concrete technique to do it! it DOESNT mean "see" god, know about god or whatever other authors wrote about it;
this also means: that a true master CAN change vibration of student through a change of his own vibration; No one will use it for "let other people do what U want", as some authors write;
write book for own reincarnation:
Yes sapphire thats definitly possible!
There´s a book "secret figures of the rosicrucian": so many rosicrucian dont know what this book means / is about:
Well bad news if a rosicrucian reads these words, has the book at home and doesnt know what the book is written for: in this case - NOT FOR YOU hehe ....
The only reason why this book is written is for those who wrote it! Maybe this is the first time somebody writes this down, I dont care as "thruth hides itself" and I dont give away a secret - which enables somebody to do something ... they will just know that they cant
O know that some members of a big order currently try to get the message of the book, hey U all will fail to do so hehe ...
Explanation: fama fraternitatis is for those who are on the path; secret figures is mainly for those who made the path, so when they reincarnate that they can reopen the next order 108 years after the last one closed down;
even if you fully know the meanings about 4 elements, 7 planets, 22 hebrew letters, fama .... you can read this book / meditate about this book 100 years and you will know nothing! No matter what grand masters (and little masters hehe ..) say ...
Only those ones who fully understand quabbalah, alchemy, hermetics and astrosophy from within their own soul they can easily "open" the book;
to kentucker4: Yeah semms to be same with me, I have very stable and longlasting lucid dreams where - after talking to sapphire - I see that these are APs as I have full control about everything, even can fly, but seems to be no high plane but my own dreams ;-( ..... also I cant do it by will all the time, but if I try during night very often such a lucid dream follows ...
I always thought all these are lucid dreams, now I realise that they are very different and many of them where APs ....
all I want is to be able to AP / OBE whenever I want .......
as I dont like all the esoterical blabla of all these organisations ...only accept true own experience!
If you dress up a pig with gucci clothes ..... it is still a pig hehe .....
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 21, 2008 23:17:05 GMT -4
examle for influencing people; When I was about 16 I bought the book "black magic" from cavendish ... I built an elemental, had form of a black puma with green eyes, very big size .... to protect me; During a journey with school some kids where picking on me and annoyed me; so I was really sad this days; During night one ran out of the tent telling .... there´s a big dog in the tent ..... the other one screamed because he was dreaming of green eyes following him ...... One day, about 3 months after that, I argued with my mother, finally going away and thinking ..... AAAAAAA I am angry at you ..... suddenly she fainted and lay down on the floor without being conscious ... I took my magical stick wich was the "home" for my elemental and broke it .... thinking ... to destroy the elemental .... and since then I never did it again .... Also when we had a fight with a neighbour, member of austrian secret service who brought many innocent people in front of court and shouted at all is neighbours ..... (I was about 20) I took a mirror and thought ..... ll your negative thoughts go back to you and your family ... soon after that he lost job (2 times) and from boss of secret service he turned into a sick old frustrated man without power ... Very funny!
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 21, 2008 23:28:34 GMT -4
Hi sapphire and kentucker4, another thing, a bit blabla about mystics and pseudo mystics: influencing people: theres a secret technique only known among monks: Assumption; I guess you wont google it as its description is an absolute secret; This is a technique which uses "like attracts like" .... make ur own vibration as high as possible and attract what U desire .... first aim is reach own inner god / master with this technique; Assumption makes U reach god consciousness, found this technique also in rosicrucian teachings but: unfortunately in the new monographs of rosicrucians: the exercise is good, but not with neccessary additional comments; because once U reach aim of assumption U can change everybodies thoughts by simply turning into the vibrations of that person"; Means if U are able to change ur vibration to the one of human or animal (described in franz bardons "initiation into true hermetics" U can do everything as another person, it will be his body and your carma; But even franz bardon doesnt mention assumption as not everybody has right to do that; If any rosicrucian reads above these lines, here´s the key hint: assumtion means reach unio mystica; unite with ur inner god; (BE GOD); this is the concrete technique to do it! it DOESNT mean "see" god, know about god or whatever other authors wrote about it; this also means: that a true master CAN change vibration of student through a change of his own vibration; No one will use it for "let other people do what U want", as some authors write; write book for own reincarnation: Yes sapphire thats definitly possible! There´s a book "secret figures of the rosicrucian": so many rosicrucian dont know what this book means / is about: Well bad news if a rosicrucian reads these words, has the book at home and doesnt know what the book is written for: in this case - NOT FOR YOU hehe .... The only reason why this book is written is for those who wrote it! Maybe this is the first time somebody writes this down, I dont care as "thruth hides itself" and I dont give away a secret - which enables somebody to do something ... they will just know that they cant O know that some members of a big order currently try to get the message of the book, hey U all will fail to do so hehe ... Explanation: fama fraternitatis is for those who are on the path; secret figures is mainly for those who made the path, so when they reincarnate that they can reopen the next order 108 years after the last one closed down; even if you fully know the meanings about 4 elements, 7 planets, 22 hebrew letters, fama .... you can read this book / meditate about this book 100 years and you will know nothing! No matter what grand masters (and little masters hehe ..) say ... Only those ones who fully understand quabbalah, alchemy, hermetics and astrosophy from within their own soul they can easily "open" the book; to kentucker4: Yeah semms to be same with me, I have very stable and longlasting lucid dreams where - after talking to sapphire - I see that these are APs as I have full control about everything, even can fly, but seems to be no high plane but my own dreams ;-( ..... also I cant do it by will all the time, but if I try during night very often such a lucid dream follows ... I always thought all these are lucid dreams, now I realise that they are very different and many of them where APs .... all I want is to be able to AP / OBE whenever I want ....... as I dont like all the esoterical blabla of all these organisations ...only accept true own experience! If you dress up a pig with gucci clothes ..... it is still a pig hehe ..... Tell you something interesting, and it worked. I drove my car to a plaza, but the parking is so limited, I was thinking, there is no way I will get a spot. Plus, there were 5 cars ahead of me, waiting on the lot for a space. I read your post in the morning, just I did not have time to write reply. But I remember you wrote this "Inner god" thing, then I used this method and used my inner God power. I thy commanded to have a space open for me. I could not believe it, I passed all those 5 cars, as if I was planning to exit the parking lot. While I got to the other side of the parking lot, THERE WAS AN EMPTY PARKING LOT OVER THERE. kentucker4 is being modest, he is one of the most fluent in astral projection member here, read his AP log, you will know. Long time ago, I saw a book in astral. It is an divine book of one religion, but I was not really interested in it. Because it was presented to me. Now, come to think of it, it was very stupid of me. There might be many secrets in it.
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Post by serapis on Dec 22, 2008 5:47:39 GMT -4
Hi sapphire,
yes, I think its more or less correct that:
there seems to be normal human personality and "inner self" .... some kind of soul personality;
The human body is like a car, some drive VW, others a viper hehe ..... but its only a body anyway, only a brain with abolute no magical power;
1) there seem to be different types of inner selfes as you posted, some with god status, others who dont have that ......
2) it possible that somebody is not connected to inner self (well most humans arent) and in this case you dont know who you are ..... also I dont know ..... so your posting about that was really interesting for me...
The thing with the car always works when you are connected to inner self, and it seems especially if this inner self is highly developed you have supernatural powers ....
many occult orders teacht that this inner self is "god" ..... but this is only partially true .... its a particular being!! I am convinced of that, also that there might be a monotheistic supergod - but there are many gods / beings who reached god status .....
so I think that your postings are absolutely right, also if you write that astrals have "size" .....
Today I tried OBE durign night, but I was without any energy, only for a few seconds within 30 minutes of pratise I felt this floating feeling, so I decided to continue sleep;
Then I had a lot of dreams where I was lying in bed and checked if I was dreaming and where I came to the result ... no .... even when the surroundings where phantastic, one bed was on a ski envelope and on the bed was a yoga mat hehe .... and still I was thinking ... no dream ...
no energy this is the reason I guess ....
Then finally I got lucid in one, was lying on side and almost wasnt able to move; not even the hands, just a few centimeters; I tried to visualise a weapon (thought of that) and wanted for some reasom a hammer instead of sword (just imagine me running after a deamon with a little hammer hehe ...) like tom and jerry ....
this didnt work and I woke up;
Very strange sometimes it seems there´s a lot of enery and I could be out even sitting on my couch, today I coudnt do anything. ....not even be lucid and move in dream;
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Post by serapis on Dec 22, 2008 5:54:57 GMT -4
PS inner god power: esp if you are in objective consciousness mode / physically awake ... it seem to work ... so you have supernatural power even in real life ..... just that theres a time delay ... so in astral if you think something it happens immediately, in real life you have to visualise and it takes time till it happens ... so one supernatural power seems to be to change even the past .... not only the present ... time is an illusion anyway ... But this human body seems to be like a computergame - avatar ... like in these massive multiplayer online games .... you login - create a charakter aln play in game, but its not you ... I hope that I managed to change reality to get your books sooner as amazon stated they will come about 9th of january 2009!! I am really looking forward to get them!!
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Post by serapis on Dec 22, 2008 6:02:14 GMT -4
Hi kentucker4
seem to be best way as its rather easy also for me to get lucid in dream ...
Even if there seem to be success in getting in OBE state from meditating state .... I seem to be confused whether its remote viewing (what is rather easy for me) or OBE; Also I cant control it and as I also feel physical body - thinking goes back to physical body and I dont get out or snap back immediately ...
some of my lucid dreams are very stable and I guess I ll try to reach other dimensions form there first ....
at least as long as I get sapphires books....... stupid austrian toll "service" keeps back the books for many weeks .... and they tell us about a globalised world ... its worse than 20 years ago hehe ...
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