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Post by serapis on Dec 3, 2008 16:30:53 GMT -4
Hello, I just registered to this forum, hey sapphire just ordered 4 of your books, I am really looking forward to read them! I am 36, yoga teacher (musician and audio engineer) and studied different spiritual teachings since I can remember; After reading Monroe, Buhlman and many others beside general spiritual teachings OBEs / Astral projection always was one of my main interests; My best hints for OBEs so far: Mantras help a lot, esp. SO HAM mantra as it frees your mind from any binding; Yoga in general helps to learn to relax and meditate; But you have to learn from somebody who knows what he / she is talking about, lot of nonsense out there; Traveling india may help hehe ... Gateway CDs / Journeys out of body CDs: (Monroe Institute) I found them to be exellent to experience deep relaxation and different stages of consciousness; Gateway 1-6 worked exelennt for me! So does "journeys out of body", with Condition D I reached awesome relaxations; I also studied rosicrucian teachings for more than 12 years, really great in general even if many people seem to talk more than to know there are some real masters out there; Helped me a lot to understand who I am and why I am here; Just that I dont like that there are "secrets" not available for everybody, truths protects itself from those who are not ready, theres no need to hide something as true teachings come from inside, all other teachings are exoteric and only lead to true experience .... Robert Bruce: Just ordered his CDs / some of his books - seem to have some interesting aspects about possible reasons for failure situations; I experiencd OBEs and many lucid dreams since a long time, just that I cant leave the body as I like, just now its getting better and I am working every day at this skill; Also just working on some audio CDs which will help to sync brain and to relax; Would be nice to know others and their tools to achieve OBEs, SERAPIS
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 3, 2008 22:26:53 GMT -4
Hello, I just registered to this forum, hey sapphire just ordered 4 of your books, I am really looking forward to read them! I am 36, yoga teacher (musician and audio engineer) and studied different spiritual teachings since I can remember; After reading Monroe, Buhlman and many others beside general spiritual teachings OBEs / Astral projection always was one of my main interests; My best hints for OBEs so far: Mantras help a lot, esp. SO HAM mantra as it frees your mind from any binding; Yoga in general helps to learn to relax and meditate; But you have to learn from somebody who knows what he / she is talking about, lot of nonsense out there; Traveling india may help hehe ... Gateway CDs / Journeys out of body CDs: (Monroe Institute) I found them to be exellent to experience deep relaxation and different stages of consciousness; Gateway 1-6 worked exelennt for me! So does "journeys out of body", with Condition D I reached awesome relaxations; I also studied rosicrucian teachings for more than 12 years, really great in general even if many people seem to talk more than to know there are some real masters out there; Helped me a lot to understand who I am and why I am here; Just that I dont like that there are "secrets" not available for everybody, truths protects itself from those who are not ready, theres no need to hide something as true teachings come from inside, all other teachings are exoteric and only lead to true experience .... Robert Bruce: Just ordered his CDs / some of his books - seem to have some interesting aspects about possible reasons for failure situations; I experiencd OBEs and many lucid dreams since a long time, just that I cant leave the body as I like, just now its getting better and I am working every day at this skill; Also just working on some audio CDs which will help to sync brain and to relax; Would be nice to know others and their tools to achieve OBEs, SERAPIS Hey, Welcome again, It seems you have lots of background about many trainings, this is good news and bad news for astral projection. Good news, it is very easy for you to accept the concept of astral projection. Bad news, since you have read so many books, you will confuse yourself. Astral projection or OBE, if you still have doubts if you ever had experience about them, then definitely you are not having one in the past. If you want to learn from me, then you might have to give up some of the other books, because they will confuse you. Many writers out there, up to this moment, they're still confused themselves, not to mention mis-leading others. You need to know about this: Astral Projection is "Soul" projection, this is a way, while your human body is still alive and exit your own soul and enter other dimensions. Yes, human has souls, and human body is a vessel which you use temperately. If you have hard time to accept this, then you should not learn it from me, because this is the accurate way of astral projection, not vision projection which most of other writers are doing now and confused them with astral projection.
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Post by serapis on Dec 4, 2008 14:53:52 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire,
I guess you are right, maybe this is the reason why I cant project whenever I want till today ....
I had some definitive OBEs, but cant do it whenever I want; Till today I didnt have astral projection (visits in other dimensions) just some lucid dreams; (last omes just a few days ago;
Also: for example last night I woke up about 4 a.m.; Whenever I closed eyes I felt like floting and "moving" a few centimeters up and down .... was really weird to me .... may be the results of the gateway sessions ......
but I wasnt able to leave body, just a very short lucid dream followed, I was in my bed in my old flat and was worrying about falling out of the bed, then I was thinking .... am I out of body ...... then I realised ..... oh lucid dream ..... and woke up again;
I ll read your books and then ask; great that this forum is online,
serapis
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Post by Astral Knight on Dec 4, 2008 16:39:24 GMT -4
I think you might be close, but I cannot explain properly, Sapphire will tell you. ;D
Welcome!
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Post by serapis on Dec 4, 2008 16:48:44 GMT -4
Hi Astral Knight,
Thx for welcome, I am sure I ll like this forum, always searched for a place where people meet with real experience!
in my case lot of experience with meditation, some lucid dreams and at least 2 OBEs ....
about 8 years ago ...... had a lucid dream, standing in my room, suddenly everything changed after I got lucid, and it was really the room, I was floating out through the closed curtain and looked all over vienna (lived on a hill above vienna these days) ..... was so excited that the OBE ended and I woke up;
Also some experience with something like remote viewing ....like meditation and concetrating on a person and getting some pictures .....
But unfortunately no astral projection and no OBE through will / when I wanted it .... At the moment it looks like I would be close .......
BR from vienna
serapis
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 4, 2008 22:37:20 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire, I guess you are right, maybe this is the reason why I cant project whenever I want till today .... I had some definitive OBEs, but cant do it whenever I want; Till today I didnt have astral projection (visits in other dimensions) just some lucid dreams; (last omes just a few days ago; Also: for example last night I woke up about 4 a.m.; Whenever I closed eyes I felt like floting and "moving" a few centimeters up and down .... was really weird to me .... may be the results of the gateway sessions ...... but I wasnt able to leave body, just a very short lucid dream followed, I was in my bed in my old flat and was worrying about falling out of the bed, then I was thinking .... am I out of body ...... then I realised ..... oh lucid dream ..... and woke up again; I ll read your books and then ask; great that this forum is online, serapis Hey, Serapis, AstralKnight is right, according to what you write, you are right on it. You are very lucky to come to my forum, because I think not many people is able to help you overcome your situation. If you have bought the book, "Successful Astral Projection to the..." then follow this book, you will be able to project at will and with your situation, you could project many times when using my book. It seems you are able to exit, but not able at will and not able to fully control your OBE situation. What you wrote, you do have successful OBE, you need to be more daring, which means that could lead you out of your environment and project into other dimensions. Keep this in mind, as long as your human body is alive (the minute your human body is awake, will pull your astral to come back), so you could be more daring and explore how far you would be able to leave your room as such. Many writers wrote stages and levels of astral worlds, but they are not entire accurate, what is accurate is ... there are "heaven, hell, lower level of worlds and etc (read my book). And when you get the book let me know I would be able to guide you more. The book has whole lot, I could not finish tell you everything here, so it is better have the book handy so you do not forget. The book I wrote, I use the same methods, but some more tricks added to it. This is the reason I can exit my human body easily, when you get the book, you can tell... it is very different from the rest of writers. I will teach you tricks to over come those, just wait for the book first. ;D
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Post by serapis on Dec 5, 2008 4:21:30 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire,
I ll do so, thx for your explanations!!
daring:
Sounds logically to me as it is the same in the phyical world .... in europe so many people dont get out of their habbits and fears ...scared by everything and devoted to a live full of pain, hard work and suffering - even if they live in a high tech world ....so they live the same boring life every day (as a academic person, worker or else) from birth to death and attract same people to them who encourage them to stay where they are without changing their fate ...
when I did just little bit I ended up living in south africa, had nothing more than a suitcase and my cre, lived in plethomes (caravans) as in luxury houses, met so awesome and strange people and enjoying sea, dolphins, eagles and little baboons.... after that many months in india (will be there next year again) ...also japan, mexico and so on ....
But my biggest concern since I was about 13 is occult sciences and especially astral travelling as I only accept personal experience as true knowledge ....
and till now I only came so far that I am just at the border to look through the fence ;-) and thats a bit frustrating ........ also I know since a little child that there´s much more .... I simply knew!
Also had very unusual lucid dreams!!!
example:
I am in a romm like a cube, there´s a table with 2 candles and my parents and a glass door:
I go through the glass door and everything is dark outside, I only see the light coming from the 3 dimensional room:
But I know everything! I know all which can be known!!!
I get a little bit scared that I cant get back as there´s only this door and this incredible consciousness ....
I go back and: forget everything!!!! The only thing I can remember till today is that within this dream there was this consciousness! It showed me that it is real and as I already was in this consciousness I know it is possible to get there!!
another dream: I crawl through a very small tube, very uncomfortable .... finally I get to a strange world ... everything is blue ...no dimensions / things .... just blue ... and a very trange athmosphere ..
or this one when I was younger: I drive in a car with my father ..... everything is different ... he is not really the smart guy he is like on a lower social level and it seems so am I; We still live in the old flat indstead of living in the new house .....
I cant get out of the dream!!!!! so weird I cant get out and live the full life!!!!! When I woke up beside my girlfriend about 5 am it took me several minutes to understand who I am and where I am!! Like back from 50 years abroad......
So I definitly want to learn how to astral project perfectly and I feel a bit like "what should I do here on planet earth" like somebody who thinks "is it normal NOT to be supernatural??" There is some kind of memory like in this dream I mentioned.... that something is wrong, even if I studied rosicrucian teaching and others .... something seems to be wrong and I lost memories about who I am ....
Ok I ll post again after reading your books,
serapis
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Post by mossy on Dec 5, 2008 21:31:12 GMT -4
But my biggest concern since I was about 13 is occult sciences and especially astral travelling as I only accept personal experience as true knowledge .... G`day serapis, welcome to the forum. i notice your quote as i only accept personal knowlege as the ultimate truth too, i think its a very good way to live and yes it is natural to astral project, dont know why mainstream science hasnt recognized it as much as it should. we all do it in our sleep but we just cant remember. However i still think faith is important as certain things just "click" with your intuition sometimes and there the things you follow not knowing if they are real, but when they happen you know and your faith grows. as does our personal experince. ok thats enough rambling no ;D
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 5, 2008 22:16:28 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire, I ll do so, thx for your explanations!! daring: Sounds logically to me as it is the same in the phyical world .... in europe so many people dont get out of their habbits and fears ...scared by everything and devoted to a live full of pain, hard work and suffering - even if they live in a high tech world ....so they live the same boring life every day (as a academic person, worker or else) from birth to death and attract same people to them who encourage them to stay where they are without changing their fate ... when I did just little bit I ended up living in south africa, had nothing more than a suitcase and my cre, lived in plethomes (caravans) as in luxury houses, met so awesome and strange people and enjoying sea, dolphins, eagles and little baboons.... after that many months in india (will be there next year again) ...also japan, mexico and so on .... But my biggest concern since I was about 13 is occult sciences and especially astral travelling as I only accept personal experience as true knowledge .... and till now I only came so far that I am just at the border to look through the fence ;-) and thats a bit frustrating ........ also I know since a little child that there´s much more .... I simply knew! Also had very unusual lucid dreams!!! example: I am in a romm like a cube, there´s a table with 2 candles and my parents and a glass door: I go through the glass door and everything is dark outside, I only see the light coming from the 3 dimensional room: But I know everything! I know all which can be known!!! I get a little bit scared that I cant get back as there´s only this door and this incredible consciousness .... I go back and: forget everything!!!! The only thing I can remember till today is that within this dream there was this consciousness! It showed me that it is real and as I already was in this consciousness I know it is possible to get there!! another dream: I crawl through a very small tube, very uncomfortable .... finally I get to a strange world ... everything is blue ...no dimensions / things .... just blue ... and a very trange athmosphere .. or this one when I was younger: I drive in a car with my father ..... everything is different ... he is not really the smart guy he is like on a lower social level and it seems so am I; We still live in the old flat indstead of living in the new house ..... I cant get out of the dream!!!!! so weird I cant get out and live the full life!!!!! When I woke up beside my girlfriend about 5 am it took me several minutes to understand who I am and where I am!! Like back from 50 years abroad...... So I definitly want to learn how to astral project perfectly and I feel a bit like "what should I do here on planet earth" like somebody who thinks "is it normal NOT to be supernatural??" There is some kind of memory like in this dream I mentioned.... that something is wrong, even if I studied rosicrucian teaching and others .... something seems to be wrong and I lost memories about who I am .... Ok I ll post again after reading your books, serapis You are living a life style which I want to live. I wish I can just drop everything and pursue my dreams and travel the entire world and live as many countries as possible. You do not have to finish the book first before you come back, you can just read also chat with us. We all love to chat. ;D I can give you a quick trip on your private message. Check your PM (private Message). Mossy is right. I think astral projection should be a part of education program in school, it will help many people realize this earth and others.
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Post by serapis on Dec 6, 2008 12:30:10 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire and Mossy,
Yes definitly!
You know when I was a little child I suffered from asthma, and I always was more ore less an outsider of society;
It was so important to live my dreams as I had perceptions .... maybe south africa is my country, - Austria seems to be quite boring ....
So I did it and only through personal experience I saw that also other countries have problems and that you get a disadvantage for every advantage!
If you have a nice sea in front of your window, nice dolphins playing in front of your house, a pool and everything - there´s crime, you have to fly 10 hours to the next big city outside of africa ....
Its a thing of focus I guess ....
But all I always wanted is spiritual abilities as everything else is changing! What should I do with lots of money as I have to die anyway??? Vivekananda wrote that 90% of those who try to get rich - die before getting rich, and the others cant use it because they have obligations through the money;
So I focused on spiritual things ... and YEP - it should be thought in school!!
After so many years and reading almost everything available regarding astral projection I still cant do it, although I had some success in different stages of consciousness and some lucid dreams / mystical dreams ....
I love to read that there are so many dimensions out there because it "feels" right to me ... and I ll practise till I am able to do AP hehe ....
serapis
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 6, 2008 23:20:01 GMT -4
I am positive you can AP at will in the future, just you are not having the tricks yet. After visiting so many dimensions, I feel very lucky. Because the astral projection I have seen many scenes or events which not possible to happen on earth. And through astral projection, I did find out the Christianity is real, and the Buddhism is real too. Like angels has wings, and I and many members during astral projection, they can show wings. It is amazing. And many Buddhist statues has many arms in them, I did not believe it until I was able to astral project and found ... yes, it is possible to made many arms appear. ;D
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Post by serapis on Dec 7, 2008 15:31:06 GMT -4
I ll practise your exercises as soon as I get the books; Yes I know most of the OBE / AP books and still not able to do it ......
Yep its all I really want as - what could be more important then this ability? Since I am a small child I love all realms and fantasy stories, and since I am 13 I read books like initiation into true hermetics / franz bardon and rosicrucian teachings; But at the end its all theory and not personal experience .......exoteric blabla instread of true knowledge ...
serapis
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 7, 2008 22:52:25 GMT -4
I ll practise your exercises as soon as I get the books; Yes I know most of the OBE / AP books and still not able to do it ...... Yep its all I really want as - what could be more important then this ability? Since I am a small child I love all realms and fantasy stories, and since I am 13 I read books like initiation into true hermetics / franz bardon and rosicrucian teachings; But at the end its all theory and not personal experience .......exoteric blabla instread of true knowledge ... serapis Another tip for you... the cleaner the body is, the easier to project, I mean no drug use is the best.
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Post by serapis on Dec 8, 2008 6:32:57 GMT -4
Hi,
Ok, I dont drink alkohol, dont smoke, eat rather healthy and do yoga and breathing exercises 2-4 times a week;
Last night I followed ur hint in the private message and the hint regarding courage - again I was in this condition where - when I cosed eyes I felt like floating or moving, sometimes like moving backwards but I couldnt get away from body;
Its like I am sticking on the body, like somebody used glue to stick my consiousness to the body hehe .....
serapis
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 8, 2008 11:44:35 GMT -4
Hi, Ok, I dont drink alkohol, dont smoke, eat rather healthy and do yoga and breathing exercises 2-4 times a week; Last night I followed ur hint in the private message and the hint regarding courage - again I was in this condition where - when I cosed eyes I felt like floating or moving, sometimes like moving backwards but I couldnt get away from body; Its like I am sticking on the body, like somebody used glue to stick my consiousness to the body hehe ..... serapis That is a big process, you are ready already. Just you do not know how to do it. I will give you another hint in PM, this time ... you will leave your human body. Very good sign. Post anything after you practice the second hint, I am giving you.
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