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[krashlanmar]

... I don't know.. I was just saying I used to listen to them

And I'd probably still be if I didn't 'find' metal.

that's all XD

[kentucker4]

dang it

[dmoney]

krashlanmar said:

... I don't know.. I was just saying I used to listen to them

And I'd probably still be if I didn't 'find' metal.

that's all XD

i wonder what type of person you'd be if you were into pop music. idk any guys that like pop, so you'd still be unique

[mossy]

kentucker4 said:

krashlanmar said:

I think you guys are missing the point. Maybe dmoney gets it... I'm just saying musically it is more valid than any other type of music besides (but on par with...) classical/romantic/(post)modern/neoclassical (developed by metal more or less by the way).

Those are all "Classical" music genres, by the way. All I'm saying is that people should respect it as a genre, though not necessarily like it.

I love it when people get freaked out by metal, too, so we need those kinds of people around. It's really funny.

And if everyone in metal (who wrote those lyrics, anyway) was a suicidal goth 1) I wouldn't like metal and 2) metal would be literally a dead genre.

So it's obvious that it's all for shock value, in the same vein as punk (There's a song that starts off saying "kill all the babies." If you think that dude was serious, you're sick).

That's a punk example, but it's a close-to-metal example. Thing is, you don't get that feeling right away. At first I hated metal just like everyone else. I only started listening to some light metal when I started playing guitar. Things like Dream Theater, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne, etc...

Someone I know sent me some metal songs which included some Dream Theater (my favorite band), Iron Maiden, Nevermore (very political lyrics), Opeth (he switches from a clean voice to a demonic sounding one, on and off. Some 'death' lyrics, but still poetic. Didn't like 'em at first. They're my favorite band with D.T. now), Children of Bodom (harsh screeching death lyrics. Nice guitar though. Love them now, hated them then), etc...

I think I owe everything I know and listen to now to that kid who sent me those bands. I'm kinda lucky I met someone like THAT else I'd either be listening to crappy nu-metal, metalcore, emo, or backstreet boys. I'm serious about the backstreet boys.

Anyway, it takes getting used to. Nobody ever had to tell me that the lyrics weren't serious in "those" types of songs. It sorta just came to me in time after I started listening to more and broader metal.

Point in case: I'm telling you that they aren't serious because I know you probably won't listen to metal to get it yourself... and if that's the only thing you can think of that for some reason lessen's metal's musical value, well, I'm trying to rectify that. Like I said, nobody ever told me, I found out by myself after listening for a while.

I also remember someone telling me they don't like metal because it's very "in-your-face." I find that to be more of an opinion than anything. The opinion being whether or not one likes this 'in-your-face-ness.' I can think of a few songs that aren't "in your face" but I can't tell you that this isn't true. I personally like that aspect of it, though I can respect it if you do not. All I'm trying to do is instill some amount of respect.

By the way, I'd like to say again that not all metal is harsh and "deathy." I'd venture to say that the balance is 50/50. So the death lyrics are only half of metal, the other half is all the things everyone else sings about: love, nature, deceit, betrayal, being manly and tough , countless other topics...)

So the Backstreet Boys are back....again?

Backstreets back, alright

[mossy]

dmoney said:

krashlanmar said:

... I don't know.. I was just saying I used to listen to them

And I'd probably still be if I didn't 'find' metal.

that's all XD

i wonder what type of person you'd be if you were into pop music. idk any guys that like pop, so you'd still be unique

I used to be into metal alot when i was younger, still now, but not so much,
metal/rock, classical and.... Kelly clarkson (for some strange reason)

are what i like.
alot of metal lyrics are quite profound,
its just hard to understand them, you need to listen to the songs 2-3 times i reakon

[krashlanmar]

Mm. Fellow metalhead: \m/ tribute.

I think... I'd be gay. Definitely would have been less into occult things. Probably still be an atheist, though. I mean, I've always been into occult things (telekinesis, telepathy, etc.).

Oh I'd probably be listening to rap, actually. I used to love DMX and Ja Rule.... I think if it weren't for the metal I'd be more accepting of that kinda stuff. I still know all the words to Get Low.

I understand that's only the mainstream "old" rap but whatever. =P

I can't stand underground rap, as far as I can tell. No background music whatsoever, just people's voices. And the voices don't do anything interesting. I don't find "rap" to be very interesting as a technique. Then again, the only stuff I listen to is at the end of chapelle show.

And I don't listen to lyrics too much because of metal. Just the technique. The "music" of voice.

Let me put it this way, if rap was less about lyrics and more about technique and interesting innovations in technique and if someone put it to actual music music (which I know would be difficult. Rap and "music" are different concepts altogether. Rap relies on beat and as far as I can tell puts words on the beat (does the job of the drummer, more or less), but in music beat is less defined and anything too complex would more or less be impossible to put together since rap innately needs to have lots of lyrics)

[dmoney]

krashlanmar said:

Mm. Fellow metalhead: \m/ tribute.

I think... I'd be gay. Definitely would have been less into occult things. Probably still be an atheist, though. I mean, I've always been into occult things (telekinesis, telepathy, etc.).

Oh I'd probably be listening to rap, actually. I used to love DMX and Ja Rule.... I think if it weren't for the metal I'd be more accepting of that kinda stuff. I still know all the words to Get Low.

I understand that's only the mainstream "old" rap but whatever. =P

I can't stand underground rap, as far as I can tell. No background music whatsoever, just people's voices. And the voices don't do anything interesting. I don't find "rap" to be very interesting as a technique. Then again, the only stuff I listen to is at the end of chapelle show.

And I don't listen to lyrics too much because of metal. Just the technique. The "music" of voice.

Let me put it this way, if rap was less about lyrics and more about technique and interesting innovations in technique and if someone put it to actual music music (which I know would be difficult. Rap and "music" are different concepts altogether. Rap relies on beat and as far as I can tell puts words on the beat (does the job of the drummer, more or less), but in music beat is less defined and anything too complex would more or less be impossible to put together since rap innately needs to have lots of lyrics)

underground rap actually has a lot of really good beats. idk you listened to rap as recently as Get Low. That was only out about 3-4 years ago (wow, i can't believe it's been that long). The stuff at the end of Chappelle's show is far from underground. all he has is Mos Def and Talib Kweli all the time doing accapella raps. They're both really good lyricists, but most people know who they are (unless they only listen to ignorant radio rap)

[krashlanmar]

I understand. Yeah, get low was 4-4.5 years ago. It was in (Gahaha) Need for Speed underground. =P

And so was Static X's The Only. And that was the first metal song I consciously liked too. XD

Static X is more or less industrial dance metal. Nothing complex, nothing MUSICAL, and I venture that if they weren't my first band I wouldn't like them.

They're not Nu, though, which is good, and they're high-energy. Possibly all of my love for them is nostalgic though. They put on a good show too.