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Post by thepositivemoxie on Apr 25, 2009 2:29:40 GMT -4
I think god just has such a bad connotation to it. You know, we are born to believe god is some entity, some ultimate being. I don't believe some magical person is going to have some sort of power over my free will to live a life of my choosing. Thats all. Energy I believe in, because its something I can use and manipulate just as much as any other person... so I actually become the crafter, instead of being given rules and bounds.
I think Levitation is very much real. So is anything. If I could believe I could fly in the physical realm, or if i could even turn into a toad. I would. Funny as somethings you could make up, could be. Anything can be made a truth if its believed enough, given enough willful energy.
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Post by Sapphire on Apr 25, 2009 18:25:15 GMT -4
I want to know if levitation is real? Anyone has the experience or seen someone done it before?
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Post by mossy on Apr 25, 2009 19:21:40 GMT -4
I want to know if levitation is real? Anyone has the experience or seen someone done it before? i have read about it in franz bardons work. but never seen it. i believe anything is possible though, if you were advanced enough ;D
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Post by mossy on Apr 25, 2009 19:26:32 GMT -4
I think god just has such a bad connotation to it. You know, we are born to believe god is some entity, some ultimate being. I don't believe some magical person is going to have some sort of power over my free will to live a life of my choosing. Thats all. Energy I believe in, because its something I can use and manipulate just as much as any other person... so I actually become the crafter, instead of being given rules and bounds. quote] I totally agree. however im beggining to think that the energy itself is self balancing, so its not neccesarily GOD, telling everyone what to do but it causes a learning process through negetive and positive beings always challenging each other. for example you need 2 polarities to realize the other, if it was hot all the time we would not know what cold is. so if there was only good in the universe then we would not know evil and never evolve ourselves, and i think it is the energy itself which is intelligent and makes this process happen. i like this thread, its good to hear everyones views on this ;D
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Post by firespirit on Apr 25, 2009 21:22:43 GMT -4
i think God is something -- some indescribable energy -- but it can appear to people as different dieties, depending on what that person believes or what needs to be conveyed.
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Post by serapis on Apr 26, 2009 10:37:48 GMT -4
Hello all,
levitation: I definitly was able to reduce the weight of my 120kp wooden piano when I was 15 and trying franz bardons tipps (practise Air visualisation with yourself or object) and praxis from the books of a view european magicians of the 19th century; (karl spiessbergers books for example)
I was able to lift it for a few seconds with my index finger! This was quite scary because normaly I wasnt able to lift it with both hands!!
Also I did the same exercise with myself, after that when I jumped up it "felt different", I jumped up very high and nearly hit the ceiling ...... I was never able to do it without this exercise of franz bardon!
I havent seen levitation of somebody else with my own eyes, just that this own experiences showed me ..... it must be possible; Lots o stories about spencer lewis, the founder of a rosicrucian order, as well as many stories of some indian swamis ..... just I have no use of this stories as I cant proove at all if they are true;
Also I am not really interested any more as I see more and more that "physical world is a matrix ..."
So many descriptions of levitation and teleportion are symbolical ways to tell us ..... one individuum managed to get out of matrix, it doesnt really tell us ..... jesus dissapeared in a cloud and lifted of ..... it tells us he "met" the holy spirit within himself, thats why the other apostoles couldnt see him any more .....
also in astral its very easy to have all kinds of powers ....
teleport: I begin to understand it now:
Physical world itself is illusion; So its impossible to teleport within matrix; If you get out you stay in your physical body (within the matrix) and at the same time your spirit travels "astral" and is even able to create some kind of physical energy around it so that others can see and touch it;
So you can stay in meditation in your body and appear to others at the same time on all other spots in the universe; also it seems that you can move objects around (let them levitate or teleport) ....
I managed to move a table tennis ball in a bucket of water ..... try this:
Take a big plate and fill it with water .....wait till the water gets calm and then place the table tennis ball on the water .... till it stays on one spot ...
Take a few deep breaths, hold the breath for about 10-20 seconds, breathe out ....
then breathe in, hold the breath ....put your hands left and right to the plate and LOOK at the plate, visualiszing .... that the ball moves towards you....
it works because..... you eyes are the other magnetically vibrations than your hands, normally if you look at the ball and hold the breath, after a few seconds it slowly begins to move towards your head; in my case it works almost all the time, also some friends of mine where able to do it;
god:
well the most important thing is how we define the word god ....
jewish tradition: Gods name is jehovah ..... J H V H ...... the four elements ....
jesus´s name is joshuah or jeheshouah ...... J H S V H ........ got it??!!
jesus is god, but he is the 5th element within the creation, he is above creation, he is the cause of it ....
YOU ARE jesus! we all are ......... adam kadmon ...... MAN as an abstract matrix of human race ... the blueprint ....
hindus: GOD is Brahman, he is like the screen in a cinema, the story is projected on the screen, we see couloured pictures of different stories, but this is the light, the screen itself is always there
father son and holy ghost: The SCREEN, The MOVIE and the PROJECTOR ........ and the observer ..... YOU! 4 elements ......if all together works in harmony the 5th element appears ..... ether ...... all the other 4 where created by it and it is in all the 4 elements, but it only appears through harmony ....
brahma the creator vishnu the protector shiva the destroyer
we are atman ...... and atman is brahman ........
somebody asks a stone "what do you think is god"`? the stone says .....hmmmmm a big big big mountain .....
a piece of grass says ......"hmmmmm a big big big big tree ....."
a monkey says ....."noooooo a big big big mama monkey ......."
human says ....."ach god doesnt exist .... we created god as a word to believe in ...."
god says ...... "I donno who god is if you all (stone, grass, monkey and human) also dont know" .... and dissolves in a cloud of logic .....blubbb .........
hari om!
serapis
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Post by Sapphire on Apr 27, 2009 0:19:48 GMT -4
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Post by serapis on Apr 28, 2009 10:09:39 GMT -4
Hi Sapphire,
very interesting,
I had one AP where I felt like being almighty ,
in general I feel that "I" doesn't exist, and every perception at the end seems to be an illusion at the end, so whatever I seem to percive, there's no I and no perception.....
not even the idea of an individuum or creation...
for me god can't be outside of my consciousness, because there is nothing else "outside" of "me"
so as I know this... god is consciousness and so am I ...
m if there's a computer software and nobody uses it, is there a game... there is an abstract idea of a game, there is a programer, a software, a cd, a computer , a user ....
100 years later: programer dead, no cd no computer, no user.....
so at the end is anything of these things real?
everything which can change has no inner reality, no absolute existence,
only the observer, pure consciousness doesn't change,
so even my AP where I was almighty ... I donno is it reality? at the moment I am human, well ok with a few occult powers but if a bullet hits me I am dead, I can't imagine that something which is not here all the time has true existence...
this is so far the way I think as physical "brain"
in astral the one experience was stunning....
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Post by serapis on Apr 28, 2009 11:53:02 GMT -4
ps: Just now I had a vision
god has to be everything "in every thing" otherwise he wouldn't be allmighty and not god
god has to be nothing "no thing" because if god would be an individuum or not everything he wouldn't be everywhere and allmighty
so there's nothing "not god" and god is "nothing" and "everything", the alpha and omega, beginning and end ...
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Post by Dragon on Apr 28, 2009 20:40:20 GMT -4
I think GOD is something, nothing, yet everything all at once (if this makes sense). I think how Christians view god is way off. I think GOD is kind of like the Universal Consciousness. I do believe that GOD is a single consciousness but yet at the same time he is everything. This doesn't even make sense to myself it just sounds right to me. I think GOD is a conscious being yet he is everything in some way or another. This is what I've com to believe after my research so far. If I am proven wrong or I prove myself wrong so be it. ;D
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Post by mossy on Apr 28, 2009 22:31:37 GMT -4
ps: Just now I had a vision god has to be everything "in every thing" otherwise he wouldn't be allmighty and not god god has to be nothing "no thing" because if god would be an individuum or not everything he wouldn't be everywhere and allmighty so there's nothing "not god" and god is "nothing" and "everything", the alpha and omega, beginning and end ... I totally agree 100%. the concept of nothing could not exist withought the concept of everything So i treat the concept of GOD as EVERYTHING. and ONE thing. This is the only way to describe infinity too. ;D ive never been able to comprehend the scope of it all though, i dont think the human brain has the capacity. (in the pysical world anyway)
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Post by Sapphire on Apr 28, 2009 23:51:15 GMT -4
You guys confused me, just kidding. Saint James is more down to earth, so he is more popular then Jesus. By the way, Serapis probably do not know... that one of Mossy's past lives is... Saint Bernard. One of the major reasons I run this forum tirelessly is because I want to find those lost ones, I know many gods/goddesses, Saint, angels followed me here to the earth, I need to meet them here. And kentucker4 was born as the major big white star in the universe. sapphirelove.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=6&action=display&num=1162771745I did not make these up, it is from the records in another dimension.
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Post by serapis on Apr 29, 2009 1:12:32 GMT -4
hmmm hehe... maybe I had to travel the whole planet in this life 2 be able to get many different concepts, play with words and logic and explain...
in my yoga lessons I often explain high universal laws through asanas or similar symbolic stories...
it's about consciousness and through collapsing mind and logic we often understand...
I guess you sapphire have a stable consciousness in astral, so you experience things more clear , I often have visions or just the consciousness changes , always soon after that I am able I can put it in words 2 get people out of the box of normal consciousness
hope 2 have good AP soon agagin
in my exerience what is symbol in physical world is reality on higher planes...
star... wow I can imagine ... even stars at the end are "one"
it's not about being one "with" some"thing" it's being one
whoever is "one" is not any more... the subject becomes nothing, the consciousness everything ...
by the way I really like the explanations of sapphire, strange " thing" this forum exists hehe...
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Post by Sapphire on Apr 29, 2009 21:08:15 GMT -4
This is what I believe... all of us are meant to meet here. This is also explains why most of present members, they are here on this forum for long time. Because it is meant to be.
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Post by Dragon on Apr 29, 2009 21:53:30 GMT -4
This is what I believe... all of us are meant to meet here. This is also explains why most of present members, they are here on this forum for long time. Because it is meant to be. So we all are here because of fate? ;D I can live with that. So from your view Sapphire for whatever reason we were meant to find this forum correct?
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